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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:26:00 -
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With the heavies getting a pretty brutal nerf on Monday, tomorrow is the last chance us heavies have to dominate in this build. I have created a channel in-game named "Heavies". If you play as a heavy and like playing with other heavies, go join it!
With that being said, tomorrow starting at 2000 GMT (4pm EST US), I would like as many heavies as possible to squad up and smash anyone who gets in your way. Ideally squads should have 3 heavies and 1 Logi to maximize effectiveness.
If this is something you'd be interested in participating in, join the chat channel and/or reply here. There are a lot of heavies I'd like to get the chance to play with and talk to, so hopefully we get a decent turnout.
-DSTDH |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:39:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:im running proto HMGs tomarrow!
We definitely gotta squad up. I don't have Proto stuff since I threw about 2.5 mil SP into Light weapons and Logi stuff to mess around before the respec, but I don't need that kittenpoo. :D
I look forward to recording. It should show how powerful a good squad of heavies + 1 logi can really be. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:49:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:DS 10 wrote:With the heavies getting a pretty brutal nerf on Monday, tomorrow is the last chance us heavies have to dominate in this build. I have created a channel in-game named "Heavies". If you play as a heavy and like playing with other heavies, go join it!
With that being said, tomorrow starting at 2000 GMT (4pm EST US), I would like as many heavies as possible to squad up and smash anyone who gets in your way. Ideally squads should have 3 heavies and 1 Logi to maximize effectiveness.
If this is something you'd be interested in participating in, join the chat channel and/or reply here. There are a lot of heavies I'd like to get the chance to play with and talk to, so hopefully we get a decent turnout.
-DSTDH So, it's pretty brutal eh? Are you just guessing it is, or have you seen the actual numbers? because while they may have dropped the HMG's damage a bit (probably not much) and range (which was kinda necessary anyway), they also buffed the actual heavy suits HP, and are making armor mods that don't hurt your speed as much. Sooooo, on the contrary, I'd say heavies will be just fine. sounds like CCP just traded a bit of offense for a bit of defense, which seems like a fair trade to me. you wanna run and gun and pwn face, play assault. You wanna be the tank and pull all the aggro and have massive survivability? play a heavy, or tanker. simple principal, it seems to get misconstrewed. Heres the thing, Tankers actually have a little reason to complain. They are putting in a lot more money, and they have an entire plethora of weapons that are crafted specifically to harm them. but even then, fair is fair, as a tank can one shot (or very rapidly dispatch with missiles/blasters) any dropsuit in the game. sooo, whilst tanks are getting a seemingly large nerf... we haven't even played Uprising yet. :)
HMG without Sharpshooter is bad. The reason people complain about the HMG's range is because most HMG users have stacked SS skill as high as possible. Mine is it Proficiency 3. I understand why that is an issue. I outshoot ARs from decent range most of the time. Now that HMGs don't have Sharpshooter, I don't understand the additional range nerf. Add to that a damage nerf when we already have trouble winning CQC 1v1s Proto v Proto.
The point of this is to enjoy the last day we will be able to dominate in the sense of being attackers. The change is going to turn us into objective/area defenders and will make playing a more aggressive playstyle more difficult. There should be no "set" way of playing a character. If you want to have less HP and more firepower, that should be an option. It should be like that for every suit type. The thing that made me love Dust is that I felt my character was truly my own. Having only one way to go is going to make adapting to situations much more difficult and a lot more boring.
I am trying to stay positive about the update, but I have seen very little from CCP in regards to positive changes to our class. Decrease range. Decrease damage. No Sharpshooter (which will end up being basically a damage buff similar to Weaponry now for ARs and SMGs). No new suits until "soonTM". We did get a little HP buff, but we also lost high slots that would give us additional damage if we chose to use damage mods. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:58:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:DS 10 wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:DS 10 wrote:With the heavies getting a pretty brutal nerf on Monday, tomorrow is the last chance us heavies have to dominate in this build. I have created a channel in-game named "Heavies". If you play as a heavy and like playing with other heavies, go join it!
With that being said, tomorrow starting at 2000 GMT (4pm EST US), I would like as many heavies as possible to squad up and smash anyone who gets in your way. Ideally squads should have 3 heavies and 1 Logi to maximize effectiveness.
If this is something you'd be interested in participating in, join the chat channel and/or reply here. There are a lot of heavies I'd like to get the chance to play with and talk to, so hopefully we get a decent turnout.
-DSTDH So, it's pretty brutal eh? Are you just guessing it is, or have you seen the actual numbers? because while they may have dropped the HMG's damage a bit (probably not much) and range (which was kinda necessary anyway), they also buffed the actual heavy suits HP, and are making armor mods that don't hurt your speed as much. Sooooo, on the contrary, I'd say heavies will be just fine. sounds like CCP just traded a bit of offense for a bit of defense, which seems like a fair trade to me. you wanna run and gun and pwn face, play assault. You wanna be the tank and pull all the aggro and have massive survivability? play a heavy, or tanker. simple principal, it seems to get misconstrewed. Heres the thing, Tankers actually have a little reason to complain. They are putting in a lot more money, and they have an entire plethora of weapons that are crafted specifically to harm them. but even then, fair is fair, as a tank can one shot (or very rapidly dispatch with missiles/blasters) any dropsuit in the game. sooo, whilst tanks are getting a seemingly large nerf... we haven't even played Uprising yet. :) HMG without Sharpshooter is bad. The reason people complain about the HMG's range is because most HMG users have stacked SS skill as high as possible. Mine is it Proficiency 3. I understand why that is an issue. I outshoot ARs from decent range most of the time. Now that HMGs don't have Sharpshooter, I don't understand the additional range nerf. Add to that a damage nerf when we already have trouble winning CQC 1v1s Proto v Proto. The point of this is to enjoy the last day we will be able to dominate in the sense of being attackers. The change is going to turn us into objective/area defenders and will make playing a more aggressive playstyle more difficult. There should be no "set" way of playing a character. If you want to have less HP and more firepower, that should be an option. It should be like that for every suit type. The thing that made me love Dust is that I felt my character was truly my own. Having only one way to go is going to make adapting to situations much more difficult and a lot more boring. I am trying to stay positive about the update, but I have seen very little from CCP in regards to positive changes to our class. Decrease range. Decrease damage. No Sharpshooter (which will end up being basically a damage buff similar to Weaponry now for ARs and SMGs). No new suits until "soonTM". We did get a little HP buff, but we also lost high slots that would give us additional damage if we chose to use damage mods. Uprising Heavy= Defensive Uprising Heavy + Logistics= Aggressive Study up, there will be a pre-test on May 6th, your finals will be on the 14th.
Yessa masta.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:00:00 -
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WE LOVE ReGnUM wrote:AR is also getting a huge nerf. Ironic that Easymode Heavies are the biggest cry babies 
I really don't care about the nerf. Adapt or die. I haven't gotten my hands on the new build yet, so I don't know exactly how it's going to work. I'm just going by what I see.
Funny how AR guys are quick to call out other for complaining when your class is the most babied of them all. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:33:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:WE LOVE ReGnUM wrote:Logi Bro wrote:WE LOVE ReGnUM wrote:AR is also getting a huge nerf. Ironic that Easymode Heavies are the biggest cry babies Ironic doesn't even begin to cover your comment. Do I have to explain/ Link the definition of Irony. HMG= Highest RoF in a Hit -Scan game= abuse of core game mechanics Biggest Clip = Just LoL Only Gun that actually gets more accurate overtime = So you rewarded for holding down AR This adds up into a easymode gun for easymode players. As opposed to ARs, which have perfect accuracy from the first bullet, do twice the damage per bullet, have the best versatility in close, medium, and long range combat, and have ridiculously quick reload times. As it just so happens, in CQC I find a smaller cone of spread a hindrance, not a reward as you put it. If you can classify the HMG as easymode, I can classify the AR as "easiesteasymodeofalleasiness."
Add to that they get the new Sharpshooter that will inevitably give ARs a significant damage buff.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:29:00 -
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WE LOVE ReGnUM wrote:low genius wrote:WE LOVE ReGnUM wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:WE LOVE ReGnUM wrote:AR is also getting a huge nerf. Ironic that Easymode Heavies are the biggest cry babies Where are you getting this info...from the DEV blog I saw the only thing happening to AR is the Tactical variant is getting a damage buff. Easymode Heaviest...lol more like easy Target heaviest I played the new build. Personal experience trumps forum crybabies. personal experience from a reliable source, maybe. FanFest MVP Champion...just gonna leave that right there
I wish I could have a footlong e-peen. I'll stick to my "crappy" YouTube videos. Smile for the camera, kid :D |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:58:00 -
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Llan Heindell wrote:So, everybody is running Heavies tomorrow, but you guys have a truce and wont kill each other, so battles will end by time/MCC destroying MCC?
XDD~
Llan Heindell.
I don't have a truce with anyone. The truce doesn't even make sense. Whoever came up with that idea is living on a strange island somewhere.
But anyways, the thread kind of got off topic with the trolls doing what they do and making it out to be me complaining instead of me setting up a good time for some of my heavybros. Be sure to join the chat channel so we can set up some squads. Also, tell your corp buds and other friends about it. The bigger, the better. |
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